This question is asked so many times I thought it was write to post the answer here and to give some further detail. This is accurate, as at March 2021 in the UK.
As an ‘attorney’ you have a ‘fiduciary responsibility’ to the attorney. Now that word fiduciary is a complicated word. It’s definition is a person to whom property or power is entrusted for the benefit of another.
Now, lets break that down for you (I’ll try not to sound patronising). ‘a person’ – the attorney, has power ‘given by the donor’ whom you are acting on behalf of (entrusted- or given trust) to act on the benefit or another ( in this case the donor). In very plain english, you have given control over money or assets in order to manage them on behalf of someone else, better than you would manage your own money.
It’s not complicated.
It could be that you are acting on behalf of the donor before they have completely lost capacity, and that puts you and me on really dodgy ground when answering the question, as the they (the donor) may be able to still make some decisions, which then leaves me asking why the power of attorney in the first place. But, OK, I have elderly parents and understand much of what goes on. But please get in touch if any of this is not clear.
With that in mind, let me answer the question.
Short answer on this is no, not sure why you thought it may be different. It’s not your money. Having spoken to a couple of people in recent weeks on this issue – it does seem that far too many attorneys are trying to tweak the rules that are in place – in order to fit their own aims – don’t. You are probably breaking the law here in the UK>
The long answer is below.
More – taken from http://johnmacaulay.com/borrowing-money-as-power-of-attorney/
It’s not a UK site but succinctly expresses it.
Borrowing Money as Power of Attorney
One of the questions which I am asked over the years is whether an attorney using the authority under a power of attorney can access money held for an incapable donor to be used for other purposes than to benefit the donor.
THE ANSWER IS NEVER!
This situation arises most often when a child or children who are named as attorneys want to “borrow” money from the incapable person. The reason given is that Mum or Dad has more than enough money to keep them for the rest of their days and they would loan the money without question. Besides, I am often told “I will pay it back if it were needed”
I often hear that taking into account the income from government and other sources they will never need any more income. Sometimes this type of transaction is joined in by and supported by all of the siblings.
Another justification given is that for estate planning reasons they wish to reduce the value of the estate on death and thereby pay less to the government. This is not within the authority of the attorney either since they are doing the same thing for another reason.
It is the attorney’s duty to use the power only for the benefit of the donor and not for the attorney’s own profit, benefit or advantage. The attorney can only use the power for his or her own benefit when it is done with the full knowledge and consent of the donor. I am not aware of any authority that detracts from this principle in circumstances where the benefit is conferred on family members.
An Attorney is a fiduciary whose powers and duties must be exercised and performed diligently, with honesty and integrity and in good faith, only for the incapable person’s benefit. An attorney who receives compensation for managing property must exercise the degree of care, diligence and skill that a person in the business of managing the property of others is required to exercise. I’ll explain the meaning below again, in case you didn’t get it the first time.
An attorney has an obligation to keep proper accounts. A trustee must keep a complete record of their activities and be in a position at all times to prove that they administered the trust prudently and honestly. They must have the accounts ready and give full information whenever required.
A trustee must make a proper accounting as a condition precedent to being awarded compensation. Without a proper accounting, the court is unable to assess the conduct of the fiduciary and to determine the compensation to which he or she is entitled.
An attorney who fails to retain receipts supporting substantial cash withdrawals or expenses charged against the incapable person’s property has not adequately carried out their duties and will be held personally liable for the unsubstantiated withdrawals.
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From the Public Guardians Office
Again – no.
An in-depth explanation of what you can do. CA
From Alzheimers.org.uk PoA’s are not authorised to take loans for themselves nor authorise loans for other people so far as I am aware. Others will be along with more knowledge than I but that’s my understanding from discussions with the OPG.
If you are really not sure and still want to consider the options of borrowing from the elderly parent – you are supposed to be acting in the best interests of – call the Public Guardians office – you’ll the same answer as above – it is not acceptable to borrow from a donor when you have power of attorney – not now not ever.
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